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IndyTreeFan
05-05-2009, 03:21 PM
What is the most important piece of the puzzle when putting together a basketball team? The one position that it is most important to have a true star at? And why?

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xfactor9600
05-05-2009, 03:43 PM
Going with the Point Guard position. Tournament teams get great guard play. Great guard play starts from the the guy that gets the ball across the timeline and then sets the offense.

bent20
05-05-2009, 04:09 PM
Point guard. A really good one can make everyone else better. Second would be a dominant low post player. Of course if you have a super star at any position that trumps everything else.

SycamoreStateofMind
05-05-2009, 05:37 PM
I am trying to figure out why someone would vote SF and not explain why? FYI if you voted for SF that stands for Small Forward.... lol

I have to go with PG. Which might explain why Indiana State has not been good for some time now. When was the last time we had a good true PG? Menser? I'd say so, I am talking about a PG that distributes the ball and does not make a lot of TO's. Because I don't want to hear the Gabe Moore was a good PG argument. Gabe Moore was decent he could score and he was ok, but he turned the ball over a heck of a lot. That is not what I am looking for in a PG.

BankShot
05-05-2009, 05:50 PM
...differentiates "Great" from "Good"...

The Chamberlain's, Russel's, Alcindor's and Walton's are a rare breed, as they impact BOTH ends of the court.

sycamorebacker
05-05-2009, 08:36 PM
I am trying to figure out why someone would vote SF and not explain why? FYI if you voted for SF that stands for Small Forward.... lol

I have to go with PG. Which might explain why Indiana State has not been good for some time now. When was the last time we had a good true PG? Menser? I'd say so, I am talking about a PG that distributes the ball and does not make a lot of TO's. Because I don't want to hear the Gabe Moore was a good PG argument. Gabe Moore was decent he could score and he was ok, but he turned the ball over a heck of a lot. That is not what I am looking for in a PG.

I'm not sure Menser or Green were great PG's individually but being on the floor together made them very good.
I consider Menser a better combo guard but that's just the way I see him.

Just For Information: When Menser was a Jr and Green a Sr. Menser had 83 a and 57 to's and Green had 141 a and 88 to's. Strangely, when Gabe was a sr. he had 141 and 88. (That is not a misprint - the same as Green)

SydCamore
05-06-2009, 12:49 PM
Good PG play is what wins in our league......... Emenecker (spelling?), Daniel Ruffin, Menser, J Tatum, Bryan Mullins, Kwadzu Ahelegbe.........

If you look at the NCAA as a whole, PG play is what usually wins out......

It's nice to have a great Center..... Yes, a good Center may make a good team great...... but take away a PG from a great team and they become mediocre/bad.....

Small Forward????? Seriously???? Please explain..........

SycamoreStateofMind
05-06-2009, 12:57 PM
Yeah that Small Forward thing is puzzling huh?

I think Center is also very important. But my whole thing is this, unless you have a PG that can get your Center the ball or set your O up so your Center is going to get a touch where he needs it then he is no good. Plus good PG finds players who are going to score the ball, thus who needs a Center to rebound made shots?

PG is clearly the most important position in Division 1 hoops. I would contend that it is the most important position at any level until you reach the pros. Then it's a little different, whole different ball game.

SydCamore
05-06-2009, 01:45 PM
PG is clearly the most important position in Division 1 hoops. I would contend that it is the most important position at any level until you reach the pros. Then it's a little different, whole different ball game.

I kinda think it is the most important position in the NBA........ You see what I call the "hybrid PG/SG" or Combo-Guard.... Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, Lebron, Chris Paul, Jason Kidd, etc....

SycamoreStateofMind
05-06-2009, 02:20 PM
Yeah I agree... But that's my point it's a hybrid position. You see they don't put the rock in the hands of the PG if they might have trouble getting the ball to him in the Off. set. So they just inbound the ball to the hybrid player and he takes it down the floor and in the 24sec shot clock world they usually don't pass the ball.

But Lebron and Kobe are not true PGs like Jason Kidd and Chris Paul.

Proud To Be A Tree
07-24-2009, 10:26 AM
Great guard play does wonders.