View Full Version : 3 X NCAA Champ Hutson Hurt In Vault - Season Could Be In Jeopardy
SycamoreStateofMind
05-07-2010, 07:36 PM
I don't have a report on the severity of her injury, however on her final attempt at the track record Hutson's pole snapped in half and she went down very hard. This is a dangerous event and when you get in that position (pole snapping) it has to be a pretty helpless feeling. The poll reportedly snapped in about 4 places - not good.
She has a injury to her hand and arm - she did walk away from this fall however I would not be surprised if she needs further medical attention or evaluation.
People are already signing her facebook wall wishing her well and hoping for the best. So here is sycamorerunner.com wishing you the best Kylie and we hope that you heel quickly enough that you can still compete at the national championships while attempting to defend your outdoor title from last year.
ISUCC
05-07-2010, 07:53 PM
you have GOT to be kidding, this is AWFUL news, ugh!
I don't have a report on the severity of her injury, however on her final attempt at the track record Hutson's pole snapped in half and she went down very hard. This is a dangerous event and when you get in that position (pole snapping) it has to be a pretty helpless feeling. The poll reportedly snapped in about 4 places - not good.
She has a injury to her hand and arm - she did walk away from this fall however I would not be surprised if she needs further medical attention or evaluation.
People are already signing her facebook wall wishing her well and hoping for the best. So here is sycamorerunner.com wishing you the best Kylie and we hope that you heel quickly enough that you can still compete at the national championships while attempting to defend your outdoor title from last year.
SycamoreStateofMind
05-07-2010, 07:57 PM
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Sycamore Proud
05-07-2010, 08:28 PM
Yes, pole vault is a very dangerous event for this very reason. I'm thankful Kylie could walk away from the incident. Recover quickly Kylie. You have had a great career. I hope you can continue it on your terms. You will be in my prayers.
SycamoreStateofMind
05-07-2010, 10:54 PM
Kylie received stitches in her hand late tonight - it looks like MVC is out of the question at this point and NCAA Championships are in doubt... I would say at this point you could consider her doubtful for MVC and questionable for Regionals and beyond - this is a bad injury for one heck of an athlete...
I talked to Coach Jeff Martin and he seemed cautiously optimistic that she might return this season - it's just one of those deals. It could really happen at any time to anyone - it's a shame that it happened to her.
Occasionally Coach Martin get's on here - Coach can you speak to this? To those of us (me) who are not educated about the vault, what happened tonight? How will this effect her moving forward?
SycamoreSage
05-08-2010, 04:30 AM
I may have misunderstood the report but, unless I'm mistaken, Kylie established a new collegiate [NCAA] OUTDOOR record in the vault at 14 feet, 9 1/2 inches, before the accident. Wotta an amazing accomplishment!
Keep in mind that she is competing with two painful hamstings. She was wearing a heat strip (?) on each thigh at the Pacesetter.
Kylie is extremely tough but an accident like the one she experienced can play havoc on the mind.
Best of luck, Kylie.
SycamoreStateofMind
05-08-2010, 04:58 AM
Sage you may very well be correct, I didn't get that impression - I thought she got hurt on her attempt to break the track record (which she might have already had) - but I could be mistaken.
ISUCC
05-08-2010, 07:28 AM
according to the ISU release, Hutson did break the all time NCAA outdoor record, she was going for the all-time indoor/outdoor record on that last attempt.
http://www.gosycamores.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15200&ATCLID=204942760
gotta hope she can come back before the NCAA meet, but it sure doesn't sound encouraging. What an awful thing to have happen.
Quabachi
05-08-2010, 12:59 PM
Considering that Kylie is an NCAA multi-Champion, she is arguably the greatest athlete in school history.
Wishing her the very best!
:sycamores:
SycamoreSage
05-08-2010, 02:05 PM
I do not want to get into an argument about "greatest athletes in history." Kylie's achievements are superlative, i.e., "off the chart" in one of the most challenging disciplines, but keep in mind that Holli Hyche won seven indivdual NCAA titles.
Kylie, Erica Moore and Lauren Martin should be a part of any such unresolvable argument but so should Hyche, Kurt Thomas (five NCAA individual titles), Bruce Baumgartner, Larry Bird, Roy Burris, George Chestnut, Vencie Glenn, Max Woolsey, Duane Klueh, Ray Goddard, Chris Lancaster, Aubrey Herring, Bryan Leturgez, Ernie Zeller, Butch Wade, Steve Smith, Vincent Allen, Verbie Walder, Dave Seal, Frankie Young, Cheryl Pedlow and a number of others.
SycamoreStateofMind
05-08-2010, 02:15 PM
Did Larry Bird win one NCAA title?
I think to be in the discussion you have to have at least 1 NCAA title to your credit - if you don't then you really shouldn't be in the discussion. Granted Bird plays on a team sport and you can't win in basketball as an individual their is no such thing.
I think back to back to back like Hutson has been able to do is a pretty impressive feat. She might not only be the best athlete in Indiana State history, she might be the best athlete in Terre Haute history - winning 3 NCAA titles is pretty fantastic.
SycamoreSage
05-08-2010, 02:39 PM
I am not belittling Kylie's achievements. They are fantastic. However, as you seem to recognize, there are many team sports where individual titles are not achieveable. Thus, you are eliminating more than half of the athletes who have attended Indiana State from the discussion before it begins. That is why I do not want to participate in such an argument. A couple of the athletes listed are Olympic champions. Several were professional athletes in more than one sport. More than a few were college athletes in more than one sport.
Terry Dischinger, Clyde Lovellette, Max Carey, Tommy John, Greg Bell, Art Nehf, Paul Moss, Norm Cottom and Tony McGee are a few Terre Haute athletes who should be in any discussion on that topic. Kylie fits in very well.
Quabachi
05-08-2010, 02:44 PM
Kylie, get well soon!
You are one of many amazing athletes in ISU history, thank you!
Sycamore Proud
05-08-2010, 06:28 PM
Kylie, get well soon!
You are one of many amazing athletes in ISU history, thank you!
Very well said! None of the athletes mentioned in this thread would, I believe, want to be involved in any form of argument over this topic. "Amazing athletes" describes so many so well. They and many others are excellent reasons I'm proud to be a Tree!
:sycamores::sycamores::sycamores:
ISUCC
05-08-2010, 07:15 PM
agreed, you can't single out any "one" athlete and say they were the best in ISU history, it's easier to say they're "among the best ever" to be an ISU athlete
SycamoreStateofMind
05-08-2010, 07:54 PM
At no point did this thread become an argument, you people need to chill out - it was a discussion over how she should be introduced. It's never going to be fair or correct to call someone out right the best ever - their are almost always exceptions to the rule and you almost always have to qualify yourself by saying "arguably" the best or one of the best - it's the same difference.
So just relax yo.
I mean can you name any athlete in all of sports that is out right the best to ever compete in his or her sport.
Some might say Tiger Woods - well you could def. argue against it. Some might say MJ, again it's a debatable topic. The only two I could really think it would be ok to address as the greatest ever are Wayne Gretzky and Dale Earnhardt Sr. - I think those two guys were the greatest ever in their sports, no doubters...
sycamorebacker
05-08-2010, 07:57 PM
Did Larry Bird win one NCAA title?
I think to be in the discussion you have to have at least 1 NCAA title to your credit - if you don't then you really shouldn't be in the discussion.
You've never said anything more incorrect than this in your whole life.
I haven't looked up the facts, but Bird may have or was close to leading the NCAA in scoring and rebounding. I think that certainly makes him one of the top NCAA athletes ever. Not to mention his gold medals and NBA all-star games and championships.
SycamoreStateofMind
05-08-2010, 08:03 PM
Well fair enough backer, but I don't think it's really fair to talk about what they did after college. That's not what this is about, the discussion is about the greatest athletes in Indiana State's history and last timed I checked 3 NCAA individual titles are going to rival someone who was "close" to do anything. I'm not saying Bird didn't do anything, that would be a dumb argument to make - but one thing he didn't do is win a NCAA National Championship and as someone else previously said it's kind of a pointless discussion to have because team sports like football, baseball, basketball kind of don't get a fair shake in this discussion.
But I would say someone who has the best outdoor pole vault in NCAA history is doing big things. Maybe you should take a step back and appreciate what we are talking about here, do that before you call me out. Because when was the last time that Indiana State had an athlete hold an NCAA all time mark? That doesn't happen everyday boys!
SycamoreStateofMind
05-08-2010, 08:08 PM
You've never said anything more incorrect than this in your whole life.
I haven't looked up the facts, but Bird may have or was close to leading the NCAA in scoring and rebounding. I think that certainly makes him one of the top NCAA athletes ever. Not to mention his gold medals and NBA all-star games and championships.
You also so kindly left out the part me saying, "granted Bird played in a team sport" it's not like I was oblivious to this fact... I mean really, you want to be critical of me that's cool with me - but at least let their be shadow of a doubt.
sycamorebacker
05-09-2010, 03:14 PM
I'm not saying that Kylie is not our greatest athlete ever. Just that an NCAA championship is not the sole criterion. I think gold medals and taking our bball team to #1 in the nation practically single-handed merits consideration.
This is the statement I had a huge problem with:
"Did Larry Bird win one NCAA title?"
SycamoreStateofMind
05-09-2010, 04:55 PM
Well since you have a "HUGE" problem with it maybe I should stand down...:violent: Let me ask you this much, don't you think that 3 or more NCAA titles kind of sets you apart from someone that didn't win won? Granted it's like comparing grandmothers to machine-guns - it's really pointless for me to sit here and do this back and forth bull about this. However if winning a national title does not put you in a class of your own then what does. The fact of the matter is once you win one and then qualify that win by winning 2 more - I think what we can say is Kylie Hutson has something that one of the greatest college basketball players in the history of the game has and that's an NCAA title, check that 3 NCAA titles...
sycamorebacker
05-09-2010, 05:26 PM
Well since you have a "HUGE" problem with it maybe I should stand down...:violent: Let me ask you this much, don't you think that 3 or more NCAA titles kind of sets you apart from someone that didn't win won? Granted it's like comparing grandmothers to machine-guns - it's really pointless for me to sit here and do this back and forth bull about this. However if winning a national title does not put you in a class of your own then what does. The fact of the matter is once you win one and then qualify that win by winning 2 more - I think what we can say is Kylie Hutson has something that one of the greatest college basketball players in the history of the game has and that's an NCAA title, check that 3 NCAA titles...
I completely disagree. If Kylie had never won a national championship, she would still be one of our greatest athletes.
SycamoreStateofMind
05-09-2010, 09:11 PM
I completely disagree. If Kylie had never won a national championship, she would still be one of our greatest athletes.
Well then I guess one of us in the minority, this is the same dispute that people got in before Manning won a championship and the same one they get in now that he's only won one of them.
Fact of the matter is backer, if you are not from Terre Haute and you didn't run track and field you wouldn't know who Kylie Hutson even was if she didn't win 3 national championships - ya you might have heard of her before, but if it wasn't for this website (sycamorerunner.com) and for her 3 national titles her accomplishments would go totally unnoticed...
That's just how I feel about it - backer this is not meant to demise any support or any following of track and field that you obviously do. You are one of the few that pay attention to track and field. We all know for the most part people don't care about what track and field does - it's the reality of the matter.