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    Indiana State revising alcohol policy....could alcohol be sold at athletic events?


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    per the indiana statesman.....

    Indiana State University is revising its alcohol policy following a recent campus event that gave students the option to drink if they are of legal age.

    The new alcohol policy is under development that isn't as generic and is more comprehensive, said ISU president Daniel J. Bradley.

    "With the new policy there will be three things that won't ever happen," Bradley said. "There will be no open bar free drinks, unlimited drinking or serving to underage drinkers."

    ISU served alcohol to students at the "Bachelor of Death" murder mystery/leadership dinner on Jan. 31. Students of age were given an hour and a half window to indulge in a maximum of two drinks. Those of legal drinking age who attended were given wristbands and two drink tickets each. Following the event, ISU Student Affairs officials said they were pleased with the event.

    "I'm glad that the cash bar was at the event and if we follow the protocols we had at the leadership dinner, it will run smoothly," Bradley said.

    Associate Vice President of Student Affairs Nolan Davis said the university is in the process of developing the alcohol policy to work with students on and off campus to promote responsible and moderated drinking events.

    "We are trying to create a smooth and safe process for groups who want alcohol at their events," Davis said. "We aren't going from nothing to something; we are going from a low organized policy to a more organized policy."

    Even though university officials are satisfied with plans to move forward, Student Government Association president Nick Utterback said that he wants the dry campus policy changed if ISU is going to hold events with alcohol present.

    "If alcohol is allowed at student-focused events, the restrictions will become more relaxed which can have problems in the future," Utterback said.

    Even though he supports responsible drinking he does not believe it should occur on ISU's campus.

    "I want to caution to President Bradley the existing dry policies we have.," Utterback said. "The employees before the shift in administration strictly abided the dry campus policy are no longer at the university and [President Bradley] believes that college students of age are able to drink responsibly. I feel student-focused events ran fine without a cash bar, so I don't' see why it's necessary."

    Bradley disagrees with Utterback, saying that he does not think it is an irresponsible move to have alcohol on campus.

    "Attendees of the event don't have to drink if they don't want to; it's just there for legal aged individual's pleasure," he said.

    Davis agrees with Bradley, saying, "no public university has ever had a truly dry campus. There are a lot of events on and off campus that alumni, faculty, staff and students might drink at," Davis said.

    According to the current ISU alcoholic beverage policy manual, "In a university location that has been specially approved by the University President or his/her designee for purposes of allowing possession or consumptions of alcoholic beverages by persons who are of lawful age."

    To help incorporate the new policy and events where alcohol may be present, a banquet hall is currently being developed in the Hulman Memorial Student Union.

    "I think it is a great addition," Bradley said. "There are three to four weddings scheduled and a number of other events."

    Dining Services general manager for Sodexo Sue Sluyter said that it will be complete by the second week in April. Sluyter reassures that Sodexo holds the liquor license and abides by ISU's alcohol policy.

    As a precaution, employees will also be present during the events to check student's identification and ensure they are of age to consume alcohol.

    Some campuses have places where you can buy alcohol that exist on public campuses.

    Wichita State University for instance, has an alcohol policy that states the sale of cereal malt beverages is restricted to licensed spaces on campus and events approved by the President or the President's designee. Liquor can be served at luncheons, dinners or receptions that have been approved.

    Even though some campuses have licensed liquor areas, Bradley said that there are no plans for a bar type setting on ISU's campus, but is open to suggestions.

    "If someone came to me with a well thought out plan, I would consider it" Bradley said. "Alcohol laws make college campuses schizophrenic, because half of the students are legal to drink, but the other half isn't. It makes life difficult for administration and students on campus."

    Utterback reacts saying, "With the shift in administration, I feel it is reasonable for them to have an alcohol vendor available on campus within the next five years."

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    ISU a dry campus??? NEVER has been. A dry campus means no alcohol is allowed on the premises...ISU allows it in virtually every building on campus other than residence halls. I have helped to plan and hold several events inside HMSU, Hulman Center and the Science Building that had alcohol that were student events with well over 200 students attending. The only thing that has ever been "dry" has been residence halls and that isn't even true anymore with Pickerl allowing alcohol.

    This is a good move, but really it isn't any different that before...just getting a handle on it, and having procedures in place to address it and make it simple. It isn't all that hard anyway. Last year, I planned a dinner in HMSU, we had a cash bar upstairs on the 9th floor. It was fairly easy to plan and set up. Get an insurance waiver, get the security and bam....done deal. Not much of a change here. All it required before was a signature from President Bradley...I have always required all those attending to be 21 years old for these events I have planned or always put the cash bar in another room that only allowed those of drinking age to enter per suggestion from ISU staff..but that has never been required.

    ISU has never been a dry campus...ever! It just wasn't promoted that a student organization could have a cash bar if they wanted.

    Sorry Mr. Utterback....there are no rules or laws banning the use of alcohol on the ISU campus in general in the first place. This is just a change to the president's policy on the ability to offer it. As long as anyone follows the rules it is allowed and always has been (at least since Prohibition ended....lol).
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    As an OFC member, I vote NO! Too many times I have gone and paid good money to see a game/race/gatherings and been around some loudmouth drunk ruining a perfectly good day. If it takes you to drink and get buzzed up to have a good time, I feel sorry for you. Think of the impressions on the young pups in attendance.

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    Again, not a dry campus and alcohol is already served at games in the Varsity Club, you can't take it into the seats...no big deal. Alcohol is not the problem just like guns are not the problem...its the idiots using them that are the problem!

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    Just me, but I would like to see alcohol sold at Memorial Stadium....

    as well as Hulman Center and Bob Warn Field. Will it help boost attendance at games? Who knows. But it can't hurt as long as the necessary security measures are taken (checking IDs, watching out for over indulgers, etc.).

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    Tweet from CNBC's Darren Rovell about alcohol sales at college events....

    Selling beer & not allowing fans to leave boosted concession sales at West Virginia football games by 84% to $744,082 this season. Not sure how many schools realize how much money they lose by allowing fans to leave & come back into stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJames View Post
    Selling beer & not allowing fans to leave boosted concession sales at West Virginia football games by 84% to $744,082 this season. Not sure how many schools realize how much money they lose by allowing fans to leave & come back into stadium.
    This needs to change no matter what other changes occur. It never has made sense to me.
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    My idea, and take it for what it's worth......

    I would contact the Bally as well as other local establishments about setting up beer gardens inside the Memorial Stadium complex. I would rent out the space and have them set up behind the north hill area, over near the old brick fence. They would be in charge of hiring security. That way fans would have to come inside the stadium area and thus could be counted in the official attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJames View Post
    Selling beer & not allowing fans to leave boosted concession sales at West Virginia football games by 84% to $744,082 this season. Not sure how many schools realize how much money they lose by allowing fans to leave & come back into stadium.
    The city of Morgantown probably spent 3x that amount ($744,082) in responding to all of the couch fires... Careful what you ask for, it may just happen!! :bigsmile:
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    Now that is a ridiculous statement. Morgantown was burning couches long before this season!


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