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    Indiana State welcomes highest-performing freshman class


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    Enrollment down 5+%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsons View Post
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    Enrollment down and student housing developments up like 200%... Watching all that housing go up in the last couple years has had a lot of people scratching our heads - going this just doesn't make sense??
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    Might be down, but it's still considerably more students than we had until what? Five years ago? Has enough student housing been constructed to meet the demand? Is enrollment expected to keep going up? Is this a one year blip? I don't know the details, so I'm just wondering.
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    I actually thought the apartment options were needed. That said, all of the new places look to be pretty pricey. One and two bedroom rents at 600-900 per person is pretty high for a budget school like State that is primarily first time college students from lower socioeconomic backgrounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Svoboda View Post
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    Pitiful!!!!! Must read, this is the most important statistic, 22% 4 yr gradulating rate, UNACCEPTABLE, think about how much revenue the school would have even if they bump up the rate 10%. ISU, should refund kids/families a certain refund an amount if they graduate in 4 -6 yrs. I was at last yrs oaken bucket game and tailgated with a guy who specializes in helping colleges raise their grad rates and he said Ball State was as low as ISU 5 yrs ago, they brought him in to fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsons View Post
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    Let's take the positive information from the article, highest ACT scores ever at ISU. It is possible that the retention rate will go up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsons View Post
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    Pitiful!!!!! Must read, this is the most important statistic, 22% 4 yr gradulating rate, UNACCEPTABLE, think about how much revenue the school would have even if they bump up the rate 10%. ISU, should refund kids/families a certain refund an amount if they graduate in 4 -6 yrs. I was at last yrs oaken bucket game and tailgated with a guy who specializes in helping colleges raise their grad rates and he said Ball State was as low as ISU 5 yrs ago, they brought him in to fix it.

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    Let's take the positive information from the article, highest ACT scores ever at ISU. It is possible that the retention rate will go up
    That's the discussion we're been having on here for a decade. ISU has long gone after the easy Government Pell money targeting first time college students and students for less than great socioeconomic backgrounds because most of them easily qualify for that financial aid. While that is noble in some respects, it's led to those poor retention rates and a lot of those kids should likely have been in trade or alternative programs. I feel this is also a big reason why the school lacks culture, pride and attendance for events has waned.

    Having watched Tanner go through the Honors College and Networks programs, I can tell you have State has very taxing curriculum for high achievers that many outside of the school don't know about. I've seen them start to advertise a bit such as the Engineering program on the Keystone Fashion Mall parking garage so I think that is why you are seeing (or will continue to see) higher test scores from incoming students. They need to hire some legit recruiters that will go into high functioning schools and start spreading awareness about the Presidents, Networks and other scholarships as well as all of the top flight programs they now have.

    Many of you have also posted anecdotal stories about ISU teacher grads never hearing from the school. They should treat those folks as recruiters (especially the high school teachers) and give them a yearly care package that includes a coffee mug/Tervis tumbler, stuff to display in their room as well as some sort of portal access to submit recommendations on high achiever kids to be marketed for those scholarships.

    For those that didn't know, Tanner graduated and is now working at Rolls Royce in downtown Indianapolis alongside several other State grads and couldn't picture himself having gone anywhere else.
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    Not exactly along the lines of what is being discussed here but I heard this story last week and it made me proud to be a Sycamore!

    Talked to a guy last week at the TH Chamber Annual Dinner. Alum that still lives/works here locally - his daughter top of her HS class. Literally could have gone anywhere and had scholarship dollars to boot and she wanted to go to Indiana State.

    Just thought that was pretty cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Svoboda View Post
    That's the discussion we're been having on here for a decade. ISU has long gone after the easy Government Pell money targeting first time college students and students for less than great socioeconomic backgrounds because most of them easily qualify for that financial aid. While that is noble in some respects, it's led to those poor retention rates and a lot of those kids should likely have been in trade or alternative programs. I feel this is also a big reason why the school lacks culture, pride and attendance for events has waned.

    Having watched Tanner go through the Honors College and Networks programs, I can tell you have State has very taxing curriculum for high achievers that many outside of the school don't know about. I've seen them start to advertise a bit such as the Engineering program on the Keystone Fashion Mall parking garage so I think that is why you are seeing (or will continue to see) higher test scores from incoming students. They need to hire some legit recruiters that will go into high functioning schools and start spreading awareness about the Presidents, Networks and other scholarships as well as all of the top flight programs they now have.

    Many of you have also posted anecdotal stories about ISU teacher grads never hearing from the school. They should treat those folks as recruiters (especially the high school teachers) and give them a yearly care package that includes a coffee mug/Tervis tumbler, stuff to display in their room as well as some sort of portal access to submit recommendations on high achiever kids to be marketed for those scholarships.

    For those that didn't know, Tanner graduated and is now working at Rolls Royce in downtown Indianapolis alongside several other State grads and couldn't picture himself having gone anywhere else.
    As an ISU alum and spouse of a teacher who is an ISU Alum, my wife decorates her High School AP English classroom and door in ISU and is a great advocate for a university we are proud of. I love the recruiter idea. It would work!
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