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    Pacific Coast League from 16 teams to 10
    International League from 14 teams to 20

    Death to 42 current MiLB teams
    Some A ball would become AAA franchises and vice versa...

    As the markets for most Appy & Pioneer league clubs are unlikely to be able to support the increased costs of the Dream League, teams in those leagues would instead be encouraged to form summer wood bat amateur teams under the auspices and organization of MLB. By doing so, MLB could assure cities that while they may no longer have MLB-affiliated teams, they still would have baseball tied to the MLB/MiLB umbrella.

    The two sides have taken October off from negotiations during the MLB playoffs, but they are expected to meet again in November. This could set up an interesting dynamic at the Winter Meetings, this year held in San Diego, which is normally a celebration that major league and minor league owners can partake in together.

    This year figures to be contentious more than celebratory.


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    Look at that, AI and big data eliminating jobs in pro sports.

    They basically compiled data and ran algs against it and determined 95% of players drafted after the 25th round never sniff the majors. Considering there are 40 rounds plus multiple compensatory rounds, it makes sense that MLB wants contraction. Why pay for hundreds of players in your organization that will never materialize?
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    This is probably also a preemptive move to plan for if/when MiLB players finally get paid a living wage. There have been too many lawsuits and the movement has percolated enough where eventually minor league players' pay will increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokerZ View Post
    This is probably also a preemptive move to plan for if/when MiLB players finally get paid a living wage. There have been too many lawsuits and the movement has percolated enough where eventually minor league players' pay will increase.
    Yeah, it's all one ball of wax. When you can shave off several hundred thousand, you're going to give that to your other talent so they can focus on making it to the big leagues.
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    What % of MLBers have NO COLLEGE and draw origin OUTSIDE of America? To make it easy, let's just look @ this year's World Series participants from Houston & Washington.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1RA2OT

    Nationals Roster

    PITCHERS
    Patrick Corbin
    Sean Doolittle
    Javy Guerra
    Daniel Hudson
    Tanner Rainey
    Fernando Rodney
    Joe Ross
    Aníbal Sánchez
    Max Scherzer
    Stephen Strasburg
    Wander Suero

    CATCHERS
    Yan Gomes
    Kurt Suzuki


    INFIELDERS
    Matt Adams
    Asdrúbal Cabrera
    Brian Dozier
    Howie Kendrick
    Anthony Rendon
    Trea Turner
    Ryan Zimmerman

    OUTFIELDERS
    Adam Eaton
    Gerardo Parra
    Victor Robles
    Juan Soto

    Michael A. Taylor

    Houston Astros

    PITCHERS
    Gerrit Cole, RHP
    Chris Devenski, RHP
    Zack Greinke, RHP
    Will Harris, RHP
    Josh James, RHP
    Roberto Osuna, RHP
    Brad Peacock, RHP
    Ryan Pressly, RHP
    Hector Rondon, RHP
    Joe Smith, RHP
    Jose Urquidy, RHP
    Justin Verlander, RHP

    CATCHERS
    Robinson Chirinos
    Martín Maldonado

    INFIELDERS
    José Altuve, 2B
    Alex Bregman, 3B
    Carlos Correa, SS
    Aledmys Díaz, UTIL
    Yuli Gurriel, 1B

    OUTFIELDERS
    Yordan Álvarez
    Michael Brantley
    Jake Marisnick
    Josh Reddick
    George Springer
    Kyle Tucker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Svoboda View Post
    Yeah, it's all one ball of wax. When you can shave off several hundred thousand, you're going to give that to your other talent so they can focus on making it to the big leagues.

    Another factor, MLB as a whole, individuals teams, (likely) found it harder and harder to extort stadium upgrades, Richmond, VA lost the AAA team to Gwinnett, GA over a stadium; Richmond got a AA team in their place... the downside, MiLB (& poss. MLB) moved Richmond from the AAA list to the "permanent?" AA or A list.

    The Potomac Nationals (A- Carolina League) moved an hour down I-95 over a stadium issue... sad, considering the P-Nats had been in the NoVa region for decades and couldn't get support from the MLB parent... (as a side note that the Wash Nationals owner is a multi-billionaire who made his fortune on large, scale Planned Communities, entertainment, shopping venues...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Q_iu View Post
    Another factor, MLB as a whole, individuals teams, (likely) found it harder and harder to extort stadium upgrades, Richmond, VA lost the AAA team to Gwinnett, GA over a stadium; Richmond got a AA team in their place... the downside, MiLB (& poss. MLB) moved Richmond from the AAA list to the "permanent?" AA or A list.

    The Potomac Nationals (A- Carolina League) moved an hour down I-95 over a stadium issue... sad, considering the P-Nats had been in the NoVa region for decades and couldn't get support from the MLB parent... (as a side note that the Wash Nationals owner is a multi-billionaire who made his fortune on large, scale Planned Communities, entertainment, shopping venues...)
    I don't think the MLB is involved with ownership of anything in the minors outside of teams that use their owned spring training facility locations are they? I thought they essentially just loaned the players to the teams which makes it a whole house of cards?

    Maybe one of you baseball nuts can clarify that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Svoboda View Post
    I don't think the MLB is involved with ownership of anything in the minors outside of teams that use their owned spring training facility locations are they? I thought they essentially just loaned the players to the teams which makes it a whole house of cards?

    Maybe one of you baseball nuts can clarify that.
    It depends... The ATL Braves got tired of "arguing/fighting" with the City of Richmond (VA) over the stadium, essentially ATL wanted a new, City funded stadium; I can't recall if ATL owned the Richmond Braves during the fight BUT they do own them now.

    The Syracuse Chiefs were owned by the "Community Baseball Club of Central New York," in late 2017, the NY Mets announced the purchase of the Chiefs from the CBC of Central NY. Today, the Chiefs are the Syracuse Mets, owned by the NY Mets.

    So, in the MLB-owned scenario, they OWN the team/franchise, so I doubt the 2-year Player Development Contract (?) PDC is a big factor, versus a club like the Indianapolis Indians, (allegedly community-owned, in reality is ol' man Schumacher owns ~40% of the team), have a 2-year PDC (currently) with the Pittsburgh Pirates, the Pirates cover player salary, the coaching & training staff(?) and... I'm not sure what else, uniforms? gear/equipment? There are SOME examples of players at AAA having a contract with the franchise (Indianapolis Indians, Iowa Cubs, insert team of choice) vice being under contract with the Cardinals, Pirates, Brewers...

    NOT surprised this contraction will occur, likely some MiLB owners will take the $$ and walk, some may try to align with another independent league... the Frontier League (Evansville has a club) just announced a merger with the Can-Am League (Quebec, Upstate NY)
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