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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotta Hav View Post
    If The Great One gets to the SWEET SIXTEEN, we won't have to worry about a contract extension, he'll be long gone to a bigger conference after that!
    Maybe a lower tier school. I can't see one sweet 16 run after five years of losing seasons being enough to entice even a mid-level power conference school. Maybe I should have just put it at "is it already too late save for an NCAA Tournament run?"
    Fear the Trees!

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    A while back I was talking to a D1 coach about some of our fan base wanting Lansing fired and his response was "who else are you going to get"

    that's not a bleacher jockey that was someone who has been on the inside.

    just some perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niklz62 View Post
    A while back I was talking to a D1 coach about some of our fan base wanting Lansing fired and his response was "who else are you going to get"

    that's not a bleacher jockey that was someone who has been on the inside.

    just some perspective.
    Meh. Let's not act like they won't have quite the pool to choose from. It's still a mid-major D1 men's basketball head coaching job and those are finite resources.

    Every time a job opens, you get 100's of guys looking for a change of scenery, to move up, a second chance, etc. The problem is the our pay often keeps them from getting guys that have demonstrated winning experience, which is what I feel like most around here want. Its no different from hiring for any company. If your job posting says it pays $50k, you instantly will shave a portion of the candidate pool because they cannot make that number work with their financial needs whereas they would apply if it said the job paid $100k. This effect cascades through your assistant coach ranks, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bent20 View Post
    Maybe I should have just put it at "is it already too late save for an NCAA Tournament run?"
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niklz62 View Post
    A while back I was talking to a D1 coach about some of our fan base wanting Lansing fired and his response was "who else are you going to get"

    that's not a bleacher jockey that was someone who has been on the inside.

    just some perspective.
    "Some" of our fan base?

    The exceptions are who....the cabal on here, the SP townie click, and all the MVC coaches who see Lansing as a guaranteed Home Win? Some. LOL!!!
    a.k.a. The Blue MOSQUITO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Svoboda View Post
    Meh. Let's not act like they won't have quite the pool to choose from. It's still a mid-major D1 men's basketball head coaching job and those are finite resources.

    Every time a job opens, you get 100's of guys looking for a change of scenery, to move up, a second chance, etc. The problem is the our pay often keeps them from getting guys that have demonstrated winning experience, which is what I feel like most around here want. Its no different from hiring for any company. If your job posting says it pays $50k, you instantly will shave a portion of the candidate pool because they cannot make that number work with their financial needs whereas they would apply if it said the job paid $100k. This effect cascades through your assistant coach ranks, too.
    Im not saying we wont get applicants. Im just saying there will be a lot of Lansings applying with different names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotta Hav View Post
    "Some" of our fan base?

    The exceptions are who....the cabal on here, the SP townie click, and all the MVC coaches who see Lansing as a guaranteed Home Win? Some. LOL!!!
    Im sorry, I meant "some" as in "you"

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    He lucks himself into winning the MVC tourney after he inherits McKennas team.No championships since and losing records last few season. He's just barely over .500 as a career here. Really can't do much worse with new blood. May be a rough year or two after he's gone but may be what is needed to be better consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfan1 View Post
    He lucks himself into winning the MVC tourney after he inherits McKennas team.No championships since and losing records last few season. He's just barely over .500 as a career here. Really can't do much worse with new blood. May be a rough year or two after he's gone but may be what is needed to be better consistently.
    He recruited most of McKenna's team when he was in stint 2 with Royce. Oh, and in stint 1 he recruited most of that two-time NCAA tourney team as well. How quickly some of you all forget or ignore that. In fact, it was when he left for Iowa that recruiting went to pot and Royce himself admitted his losing seasons were due to "recruiting mistakes." When GL came back he started recruiting again and 2-3 seasons later they're in the CBI, then the NCAA, then the CIT, then the NIT x2.

    GL has a better winning percentage than Waltman, Dillard, Greene, Locke, and Schellhase--all the while having the worst budget, lowest salary pool, and close-to-worst (if not the worst) facilities in the league. If ISU can do better they haven't shown the ability to do so in the last 40 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooper View Post
    If ISU can do better they haven't shown the ability to do so in the last 40 years.
    THIS right here, thank you!
    NO EXCUSES

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